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What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:04 pm
by Orso
Perhaps a strange question but I noticed a DVD called: "Ferrari 312B The racing car that changed the history of F1"
I would have thought that it would be the introduction of the Lotus 49 with the Cosworth that changed the history. What was so special about the 312B?

Btw. Is the movie worth buying?

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:13 pm
by stubeck
I believe it may have run wings for the first time at Spa in 68?

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:06 am
by Corpsegrinder
Orso wrote:
Btw. Is the movie worth buying?
I personally liked it, it is a documentary showing how Paolo Barilla (who owns that 312B) manages to bring his Ferrari back on track again at the Monaco Historic GP. He was helped by the creator of the 312B, engineer Mauro Forghieri.
In Italy it came out at cinemas a couple of years ago and it was hugely advertised everywhere. A good watch in my opinion

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:03 pm
by Steffen_T
The only special thing about the 312B I could imagine, is the flat 12 engine that was introduced in this car.
It was a fantastic engine with a low center of gravity and would later win the world title inside the 312T, 312T2 and 312T4.
Did it 'change the history'?

As a F1 fan with just a bit of sympathy towards Ferrari, I would say 'no', but if you ask a diehard Tifosi the answer will be 'Yes'. And to do such a movie you have to be a diehard Tifosi! :wink:

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:14 pm
by cbk57
I look foreword to seeing the movie. Often I get these documentatires one way or the other eventually. I am in the U.S. of all things the STARZ networks got the rights to McLaren and a documentary about 1950’s Ferrari F1. Those were great watches.

As to whether the 312B was so important. I would have to see the film but I think Colin Chapman caused more change in F1 than just about anyone as he pioneered a lot of ideas that eventually took hold. First and foremost the fully stressed engine bolted to the Chassis which still defines, I think, the construction of the f1 car.

The Flat 12 had it’s moment but was a dead end developmentally as it went away when the ground effects era came and has never come back. Even in the flat bottom era up until the v-8 era we never saw another attempt at a horizontally aposed engine, which says to me the 312B although an important Ferrari was not a defining car of f1. However, if someone has a good reason to the contrary I am interested in hearing those reasons.

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:28 pm
by Flinstone
I agree in terms of an overall leap forwards the 312B is not the biggest and Colin Chapman must be regarded as the F1 innovator. Having said that Chaparral pioneered many interesting developments in sportscars and I think it was the Lancia D50 that was the first user of a stressed engine in the chassis.

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:14 am
by blakebirk
I can't speak to why the car was special but I saw the movie when it was in theaters and really enjoyed it. it will be better if you have a good sound system as the sound of the 12 cylinder engine is fantastic.

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:55 pm
by turboF1
Excellent movie. The car is restored and its a work of art. Interesting to see the engineer and mechanics argue about a fuel pump. Lol.

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:30 pm
by Fiatphile
I believe the 312 Boxer engine is what is being referred too. It in it's day was a marvel and produced enormous power when all the bugs were worked out.
Pleased do not think I am taking away from the FORD DOHC power house, any many would use it, but the flat 12 boxer was a beast and the car was too me a match for the LOTUS 49.

Rick :shock:

Re: What is so special about the Ferrari 312B?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:36 pm
by Joaquin
The 312B itself wasn't a specially interesting car. Of course it didn't change the history of F1. The really interesting item was the engine. In the times of the absolutelly dominant Cosworth DFV it was able to win the 1975, 1977 and 1979 championships. And the sound was lovely. I remember very well it at Jarama 1974. 45 years ago, my God!