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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby gp-models » Mon May 06, 2019 2:01 pm

Interesting build as it is the first to follow. I like the big size pics, as bigger, as better! :D
Seems like a lot of masking has to be done on this subject, will follow with interest.
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby lezdep » Tue May 07, 2019 11:40 am

Great work so far. Here are some photos that could be helpful - https://ninetalis.com/walkarounds/racin ... ota-ts050/
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby daniel » Tue May 07, 2019 11:45 am

Looks like a challenging kit and paintjob. One thing I would do when doing complicated paintjobs. I would try to only use semi/matt paints since I feel they are much easier to work with. Get opaque quicker than gloss and don't creep under masking tape so easily and in the end you seals everything with clear...just a tip :) And peeling of the masking tape is also easier.
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby stubeck » Tue May 07, 2019 12:34 pm

daniel wrote:Looks like a challenging kit and paintjob. One thing I would do when doing complicated paintjobs. I would try to only use semi/matt paints since I feel they are much easier to work with. Get opaque quicker than gloss and don't creep under masking tape so easily and in the end you seals everything with clear...just a tip :) And peeling of the masking tape is also easier.


Thanks! I typically do, but I didn't have matte black in lacquer form so I stuck with the Alcad paint. Of course now I see that the paint is actually semi-gloss I should have stuck with acrylic after doing a clearcoat on the matte white...but I'll stick with a gloss finish on this build.
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby f1m » Wed May 08, 2019 8:36 am

Just saw this >> https://www.hiroboy.com/PreCut_Masking_ ... 13081.html

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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby vanhookvintage » Wed May 08, 2019 3:57 pm

This is quite an informative thread. Thanks Stu & Dr. E. Interesting about the pre-cut masks. I wonder how much other detail sets will be coming out?

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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby stubeck » Wed May 08, 2019 9:43 pm

The only issue I have with the precut kit is that it doesn't seem to include anything that isn't already in the kit. While it will be a time savings, the cheapness I have will keep me from getting it. I'm only going to use about half of the masking kit I think. I'll make sure to take a picture of what I used at the end!

I'm sure there will be lots of aftermarket for this kit. I'm expecting a fair amount of carbon fiber decals as well as photoetch as well. There are areas I can see them adding in in details. I have Indycals decals on order for the correct number plates as well as WEC decals that I'll be using after the clear coat. I also suspect someone will make the 2019 paint scheme shortly too.

I've slowed down updating a bit as more information is coming out about the kit. I think when I build the kit again I'll paint the red as well. Its not super complicated and the red decals which are included typically cover multiple parts so laying down the decals will be tough. I placed as many as I felt comfortable with today but there are still quite a few that will be placed after I do the clear coating.

The other thing that came out is that the finish is actually satin on the real car. I likely won't be replicating that on this kit, but I also plan to do some testing tomorrow on plastic spoons to see if the Alcad semi-matte paint I have looks any good. I used to feel that it wasn't accurate to do a clear coat over car decals, but the last few years everything is a wrap and in line with the real car, the decals aren't on top of the finish. Saying that, there are a few decals I will be placing after the clearcoat because they're either regulatory or something else that would have been placed after the car was built.

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I started decaling today, and got a fair amount of the way through. Of course this wasn't without drama. At some point I got black paint on my finger and was leaving fingerprints around, because of course I was. I used a q tip dipped in thinner to remove some of...and it worked not as great as it had in the past. Anyway, I didn't properly dispose of it and this happened. Just a total idiot move on my part.

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I was able to cover it up pretty well with some of the extra decals though. The carbon on the engine cover is 4 decals, with 2 smaller parts to cover up near the center line. This will be very hard to see once the cars built, so I cut one of the pieces to get the coverup.

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The headrest is a pretty neat part. Lots of small details like the metal part and other decals. I've been watching the 2018 24 hours of Le Mans on youtube at work and this is a pretty prominent feature, so its good to see this here.

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I'll be doing a bit of white touchup here but the progress is looking pretty good.

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iPhone "fancy pictures" strikes again. The nose is one of the most complicated parts of this build. The kit has you painting it white, then gloss black then semi-gloss black, but then I'd have to mask again to cover the semi-gloss paint when I do the clear coat. A smart person would have painted both the semi-gloss and the gloss black with gloss black paint, then used a semi-matte finish where appropriate, but we're past that point. The other problem is the red decals. These are made to go over multiple body parts, so I have to wait to put the decals down after the car is built. I don't trust myself to put them on now and have them line up later. I'm hoping this doesn't look too bad, with some red being under a clear coat and some not, but I likely should have waited to do all the red decals until after the car was clear coated but we're past the point.

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Need to brush paint the flat black but otherwise I'm doing well. They give you a decal for this part but I don't know how it would manage over all the parts. Maybe next time I'll try it out, but I'm happy with this. I use a toothpick to paint the individual colors and it works super well.

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The numberplate doesn't 100% lineup but this is what I have. Next time I'll paint the red and use CF decals for the other black portions.

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Whats interesting about the doors that I never noticed from the real car is that the left and right sides have tremendously different window sizes. If you look at the engine cover as well you see how it is not the same on the left or right either. Once I get the clear coat down there is a bunch to paint semi gloss black.

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Rear wing came out so much better than I thought it would! I used a chrome pen to paint the metal parts and the kit decals for the CF. I need to look at some reference pics to see what type of clear coat I should use on this.

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The wheels came out really well the second time around. I used Alcad II gunmetal over white primer and it was way too dark. This is Alcad II magnesium and its a lot closer. I'm sure someone will find a closer color.

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This is still the most happy part I have of the entire build! The Michelin man laid down well and there is a sensor that went OK as well. The random sponsor decals on top was not something I wanted to throw down this early, but I accidentally got the decal in water early on. This forced me to first figure out which part the decal went to, and also to line everything up. I should be pretty close once things are built.
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby Hugeprong » Fri May 10, 2019 7:16 am

I am intrigued that there are no Le Mans decals in my kit and even the Introductory story in the Instruction Booklet appears to turn verbal somersaults rather than actually mention the words "Le Mans" (referring to the ultimate 24 hour race etc etc!). I imagine that Hiroboy will soon be selling fill-in decals.

Unless I have missed a Le Mans mention somewhere (and I have looked through the instruction booklet twice!), I wonder if this might be another case of some copyright issue preventing the release of a subject as we all know it appeared in real life. If so my heart goes out to Tamiya. I can understand the sensitivity over tobacco ads (not that it bothers me I have to say) but I always thought it was ridiculous issuing kits without Goodyear tyre decals and so on when they had those in real life and other tyre companies weren't bothered about it. I hope Le Mans isnt going down the same rather small-minded route.
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby allnie » Fri May 10, 2019 7:19 am

Hugeprong wrote:I am intrigued that there are no Le Mans decals in my kit and even the Introductory story in the Instruction Booklet appears to turn verbal somersaults rather than actually mention the words "Le Mans" (referring to the ultimate 24 hour race etc etc!). I imagine that Hiroboy will soon be selling fill-in decals.

Unless I have missed a Le Mans mention somewhere (and I have looked through the instruction booklet twice!), I wonder if this might be another case of some copyright issue preventing the release of a subject as we all know it appeared in real life. If so my heart goes out to Tamiya. I can understand the sensitivity over tobacco ads (not that it bothers me I have to say) but I always thought it was ridiculous issuing kits without Goodyear tyre decals and so on when they had those in real life and other tyre companies weren't bothered about it. I hope Le Mans isnt going down the same rather small-minded route.

A question about license money.
Do you want to pay perhaps the double (or more) for that kit to get those missing decals????
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Re: Tamiya Toyota TS050

Postby stubeck » Fri May 10, 2019 8:36 am

Hugeprong wrote:I am intrigued that there are no Le Mans decals in my kit and even the Introductory story in the Instruction Booklet appears to turn verbal somersaults rather than actually mention the words "Le Mans" (referring to the ultimate 24 hour race etc etc!). I imagine that Hiroboy will soon be selling fill-in decals.

Unless I have missed a Le Mans mention somewhere (and I have looked through the instruction booklet twice!), I wonder if this might be another case of some copyright issue preventing the release of a subject as we all know it appeared in real life. If so my heart goes out to Tamiya. I can understand the sensitivity over tobacco ads (not that it bothers me I have to say) but I always thought it was ridiculous issuing kits without Goodyear tyre decals and so on when they had those in real life and other tyre companies weren't bothered about it. I hope Le Mans isnt going down the same rather small-minded route.


Indycals has fill in decals for those who want to do the 24 hours scheme. There are white decals for where the WEC decal should go as well. I'm assuming that the cost of licensing was too much for Tamiya based on the small effect it has on the car.
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