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Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4 mod

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:24 am
by Steffen_T
Hi all,

after having found an old Burago Ferrari 126C4 in the basement, I am considering the possibilty to convert it into a decent modell using parts of a Fujimi 126C2.
Despite most of the sizes of the Bburago seem to be 1/20 I have a few doubts about the height of the car. Placed next to any 1/20 modell I have, it seems to be way too low.
Could an owner of a MFH 126C4 in 1/20 scale please help me measuring these sizes?

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a - nose width
b - cockpit width
c - nose length
d - length of nose to thecockpit front
e - length of nose to the end of the enginecower
f - height of base to the roll bar
g - height base to top of the fuel tank
h - height base to the cockpit front
i - height base to the cockpit side

j - nose height
k - height base to the rear wing connection (outside)
l - length of the side pod

Bold sizes are those I doubt to be right. The others are there to verify the sizes which I think are 1/20.
This could turn out to be a fun project if I somehow can get the Fujimi C2 engine inside the C4. :)

Best regards,
Steffen

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:53 am
by JamesB
Great!! :D
And thanks in advance to anyone offering light on this quite interesting topic.
That's a quite comprehensive Data sheet for the C4.
May we join and do some kind of group build ;-)

Fujimi stuff might be a really good hardware supplier. :D

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:34 am
by jordan
Nice project !..I only have the 1/12 kit :wink:

Alex.

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:37 am
by SWestern
Hi, I've got this kit in my stash. I'll dig it out and provide those dims you want. Please be patient it may take me a while!

Lovely build Alex. Always loved the look of this car, particularly viewed from above.

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:02 am
by SWestern
Right, all set. Here we go:

a = 21, b = 28.5, c = 31, d = 62, e = 149.5, f = 46.5, g = 32.5, h = 33, i = 29, j = 18, k = 28.5, and l = 28.5.

Best of luck with your project.

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:49 pm
by Tiffoc
SWestern wrote:Right, all set. Here we go:

a = 21, b = 28.5, c = 31, d = 62, e = 149.5, f = 46.5, g = 32.5, h = 33, i = 29, j = 18, k = 28.5, and l = 28.5.

Best of luck with your project.
Is that in CM, MM, feet and inches or maybe some obscure measurement :lol:

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:29 pm
by JamesB
Tiffoc wrote: Is that in CM, MM, feet and inches or maybe some obscure measurement :lol:
Miles!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, it smells like millimeters 8)
If so, then Burago apparently nailed it! Just the nose (cone) is a bit shorter than MFH's.
Rest, specially the more under suspicion, are more than OK.
Thanks Steve! I have one dubt: L, 28.5mm is way too short, maybe you measured from front of sidepod to front edge of radiator?
BR
James

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:46 pm
by SWestern
Well spotted James. l is 46.5mm. Yes that's millimeters folks!

I've double checked and that is the only error (I basically repeated the number for 'k' when typing).

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:30 pm
by Steffen_T
Thank's alot, Steve!
I didn't expected to get the sizes so quickly. Many, many thanks for your support!

So here are the sizes.
The first table includes the sizes of the real C2, the real C4, the same sizes scaled down to 1/20, and the sizes of the models suppied by Fujimi and Burago. As you can see the sizes for the height are very confusing...
The second table compares the MFH C4 with the Burago C4.

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The height which I feared might be completly wrong proved to be just slightly off. A new rollbar should already solve the whole problem.
I am rather surprised by the difference in length. I don't consider the 2mm of the nose a big problem, but another 3mm until the cockpit... Well, that's a bit much.
If I expand the frontsection a bit where the cockpit starts, I could do corrections on "size d" and "size h" at the same time. "Size e" won't be changed, unless the new engine is causing trouble with the engine-cover.

So here is the plan:
I will use an unstarted Fujimi kit of the 126C2 and will try to make a dry-build around the Burago C4 to find out, if I can get the Fujimi engine inside and how many parts can be used for the C4. I won't be able to do anything on my March-project in the next two weeks, so this might be a nice alternative project. :-)

Re: Question to owners of a 1/20 MFH 126C4 kit -Burago 126C4

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:33 pm
by SWestern
Hi Steffen,

Happy to help and pleased if it all helps you. Just a thought, are the real car height dimension you state measured from the ground plane? if so that would explain the extra (around 50mm 1:1 / 2.5mm 1:20). Everything I measured was exactly as per your diagrams, i.e. no ground clearance factored in.

I always thought Burago models were 1/24? Out of curiosity did some searching and stumbled on this: http://amgmodels.mastertopforum.com/pri ... 26&start=0 . Looks pretty good to me...